Can the Chargers afford to lose Melvin Gordon with aging QB Philip Rivers? | First Take

Pubblicato il 15 lug 2019
Keyshawn Johnson explains that Melvin Gordon's chances of signing a major deal will depend on how the Los Angeles Chargers value him and not whether Gordon is a top-tier running back.
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  • Omg come to Bmore Melvin Gordon

  • DO NOT PAY MELVIN GORDON

  • Keyshawn says he should get paid like the top tier guys and then turns around and says he can't catch like these other guys and basically Makes the point that he Shouldn't get paid like those top tier talents... Typical Keyshawn Johnson... talking out his A**

  • Philip rivers is overrated af....

  • Man Melvin Gordon is a athletic and physical back. We need him for clutch plays in the stretch. He earned his money man.

    • @Arturo G we wouldn't have the revenue to afford both, I wish we could keep him. Regardless he still gotta play 6 games this yeas

    • @listo castillo Gordon nd Allen

    • Think about it this way would u pay Allan next year or Gordon?

  • Do an ESPN First Take titled, "Can the Chargers afford to NOT upgrade the offensive line with an aging QB Philip Rivers?" Who watched the Chargers vs. Patriots playoff game last season? The 37 year old Philip Rivers with his bad knees looked like a piñata! RIVERS is the heart of the offense, NOT Gordon. Don't get me wrong, I like Melvin Gordon, but would I trade him for a stud Tackle? To steal a line from Mac Davis in the film North Dallas Forty, "Does a Shark Shit in the Sea?".

  • Melvin is easily top 15 arguably top 10 and definitely not top 5 he has earned a pay raise he has not earned Zeke Gurley money just my opinion good maybe very good definitely not great rb

  • Melvin is a top 5 back no doubt, but hes acting like we cant just go draft someone at 85-90% of his production at 50% of the pay.

  • Worst comes to worst we trade him for some linemen and we have a good elusive back in Justin Jackson whos still developing

  • Hollins not only took Stephan A seat he got on one of his suits too

  • Yes, you can replace him with a third round guy. He isn’t elite by any means. He has averaged 4.0 YPC and has 1 season with over 1000 yards rushing.

  • Melvin Gordon has not showed me that he's a solid RB...hurt a lot.

  • They dont know how good Melvin Gordon is

  • Bro why are the chargers still with Phillip River's no Championship at all let him go and rebuild.

  • How do the Patriots always get so many free agents without going over the cap? Maybe *Brady gets paid under the table in Brazil* to save cap space and they can then sign away free agents...??

    • What major free agents do they sign? Tell me. They sign guys who people dont know then people know them afterwards thinking they knew them before.

  • Gordon is NOT the reason they win. Gordon is NOT half the running back that he is hyped up to be.

  • First Collins, then Keyshawn smh 🤦‍♂️

  • Gordon doesn't deserve the money. Most of his touchdowns come when theres less than 10 yards to run and he cant stay healthy. let em walk

  • If Rivers feels they need Gordon he should pitch in if it will get him a ring.

    • Even if Rivers thinks they need Gordon, the bottom line is that he's asking for more than the team is willing to pay and it's very hard for both parties to come to an agreement in these situations.

  • Ryan Hollins has the 3 U's. Ugly, Untalented and Uneducated.

  • Keyshawn really said Shittsburgh is more of a threat than the Chargers 💀

  • Keep sleeping on Melvin Gordon

  • Justin Jackson is pretty good running back

  • Ryan Hollins is the "where's my hug" guy in highschool

    • This gem of a comment was lost in the shuffle. Sad.

  • Yo mah dizzle nizzle. Fer shizzle, dizzle...Like Dr. Giggles...Hollins drops his dimes and nickels... It's fun to watch the clueless expressions of Hollins.

  • The question is: can ESPN afford to keep Ryan Hollins on their programming? Dislike is for Ryan Hollins.

  • Chiefs have been talking with the Chargers about a possible trade for him. Multiple picks and a player probably.

    • Daniel Ochoa lmao no they haven’t are you dumb enough to believe the Chargers would trade him to KC? He’s gonna be a Charger.

  • His numbers went up a little bit lMAO😂 5.1 yards a carry bro

  • Hopefully if the CHARGERS play tough hard line businessmen they FALL on their face miss the playoffs just like the STEELERS & WASTE a year for the aging Phillips rivers

  • Gordon’s great but I think Austin is just as good

  • Ryan hollins ain't a bad dude ..he knows what he's doing he knows how to stay on tv

  • You got to understand, if you put a RB in for just running and one for just cathing, it becomes a lot easier to defend because it is predictable. The guys that can do both save you a player on the field and opens the offense up.

  • Everyone hating on Hollins but never said anything when Kellerman came over from boxing??

  • fuck these people need to do some research

  • Gordon trippen this is A Super Bowl roster

  • Who is ryan Hollins

  • Cut gordan and cut allen! Other players will step up who got something to prove

  • We don’t need Gordon ... trade him for a 6th round pick.. “Who else wants Le’veon Bell money”

  • KJ is spot on

  • I think the Chargers should pay him. QBs are overpaid. Running backs are NOT a dime a dozen. Giants had mediocre backs for many years. Poor running games hurt.

  • Go Chargers!!!!! Super Bowl Champs of 2020!!!

  • He’s not elite, I’ll be damn if I pay him Bell or Gurley numbers

  • Max I beg to differ you can find RB everywhere. Stop it

  • Dear ESPN: we'd like to watch Hollins talk about Curling

  • The LA Chargers were 12:4 last year... soooo dis respectful

  • I think keyshawn just argues for argument's sake. Midway through a sentence i think even he realises hes not making much since!

  • Melvin Gordon is elite 💯 no debate

  • Gordon has let his teammates his coach and the organization down pulling this stunt 2 weeks before preseason the chargers players are a brotherhood and gordon has just proven hes not a part of that let's see how he likes playing for a team that can't even win a wild card spot get rid of him hes worn out his welcome with the chargers

  • Melvin Gordon can see the hand writing on the wall. 300+ touches this year. Then franchise tag two years in a row. Then he's 28-29 years old and to old for big contract. Learn from Leveon Bell get your money while you can !!!

  • It doesn't matter. The chargers have zero chance of making the superbowl with him anyways.

  • we have our differences as espn fans but on this day we shall unite as we all have a common enemy in ryan hollins....like this my brothers so ryan can be fired

  • Jesus christ.. BSpn at its finest, putting this moron on TV. Smh, get your shit straight FIRST TAKE!!! Now he's giving his opinion on football? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • I really like #28 (or is it #25?) Melvin Gordon. Straight-up he’s not worth Todd Gurley money... even Todd Gurley isn’t worth Todd Gurley money! Besides, there’s a ton of guys that the Chargers have to manage their cap to. Specifically over the next two years Chargers have to: * Extend Chargers legend Philip Rivers ($30M+ per yr x4 years) * Extend Mike Pouncey (pro bowl center) * Extend Hunter Henry (TE) * Extend Trevor Williams (CB) * Extend Austin Ekeler (RB) * Extend Melvin Ingram (pro bowl DE) * Extend Keenan Allen (pro bowl WR) * Extend Joey Bosa * Extend All-Pro CB Desmond King. * Plus many others like Adrian Peterson (All Pro S), Forrest Lamp (OL) Russell Okung (OT) Isaac Rochell (DE) Jatavis Brown (LB) and Michael Davis (CB)... Tom Telesco is certainly going to earn his money if he can

  • Chargers can rap it up if Gordon not signed. Simple

    • You're a bigger clown than Ryan Hollins!

  • Keshawn stop it they need Gordon..trust . He opens the passing game

  • Gordon waited until after the draft to pull this garbage. If Gordon were a Patriot, he'd be traded to the Bengals and you'd never hear of him again...

    • @Ron Silvia Fair enough.

    • Gordon has worn out his welcome with the chargers let him go to a non contender for the remainder of his career

  • Ryan not that bad

  • Chargers should trade Gordon

  • Max don't know shit Melvin Gordon deserve a pay day fucking pay the man. Chargers ain't doing shit without him and for all those none watchers of football saying he not in the same tier is Todd Gurley and Zeke remember if u really watch football those teams have good offensive lines and the Chargers don't Melvin Gordon is Elite Stop playing

  • TRADE HIM get a 1 or 2nd rnd pick with a vet RB

    • @Irrelevant human L

    • @Legend__ 21 chargers can honestly lose melvin. Never liked him anyway

    • No...were past the rebuild stage. We're at our peak as a team, so we need all our best players and that includes Melvin...were not trying to just win the division and make playoffs, were striving for a chip...simple as that.

    • Paco A :exa

  • Melvin should just shutup and stop holding out

  • This is the first time i heard someone mention Kansas City as a Superbowl contender this Offseason. Like the defense got better they still got their weapons

  • Ryan low-key a better NFL analyst than basketball

  • The Disrespect to Mel is ridiculous. When healthy he is a fucking monster wtf max saying he not elite?!

  • I can understand hollins talking about basketball I guess. But he should not be talking about football. AT ALL!!!!!

  • Well Ryan, I like your opinion on this, cause we do need him

  • If the Steelers make a trade for Gordon, I will have hope again.

    • Osiris 64:I DON’T EXPECT KEVIN TO TRADE FOR HIM

  • 1:55 Ryan Hollins to self: fuck I really dont know shit about football 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • Ryan doesn’t know basketball...how the hell is this dude talking about another sport??

  • Ryan and Max don't know what the hell they talking about .

  • Aside from Ryan Hollins for a sec, Melvin Gordon hasn’t proved he’s worth all that. He’s an above average back but he’s no Bell, Elliott, Kamara or Gurley. At least not yet

  • People who ask this question, should also ask themselves if Shannon Sharpe is an NBA expert. So, is Shannon Sharpe an NBA expert? People see Ryan Hollins and immediately assume that he will have a bad take because he has had bad or previously contrarian takes, but he did not have any one here. I will also immediately put to rest any attempt by a person to argue that because Shannon Sharpe is an NFL Hall of Famer and because Ryan Hollins was an NBA scrub, that Shannon Sharpe is better informed and understands the NBA and basketball better than Ryan Hollins does the NFL and football. Anyone who thinks that has ridiculous logic and there is absolutely no correlation between the two. Does Cristiano Ronaldo, one of the GOATs of soccer and one of the GOATs among all athletes, know more about the NFL than Ryan Hollins and more about the NBA than Shannon Sharpe? Melvin Gordon divides opinion among the punditry as to whether he is elite and a top 5 back in the NFL right now, but a good argument can certainly be made that he is definitely in the top 10. He may not be a spectacular runner and have a great YPA rating, but he is quite consistent in getting short yards and he also scores a lot of touchdowns and is a good receiver from the backfield. I believe that he is top 10, definitely, but not top 5. Damien Woody, Marcellus Wiley, Rich Eisen rate him very highly. Are they not two of them former good NFL players? Is Rich Eisen not a great pundit? Ryan Hollins seems to agree with them. Will Cain and Whitlock believe that he is good but not great. So do I.

  • Its funny to talk shit about Ryan but he’s had better takes than Max on alot the topics today

    • Precisely... People who ask this question, should also ask themselves if Shannon Sharpe is an NBA expert. So, is Shannon Sharpe an NBA expert? People see Ryan Hollins and immediately assume that he will have a bad take because he has had bad or previously contrarian takes, but he did not have any one here. I will also immediately put to rest any attempt by a person to argue that because Shannon Sharpe is an NFL Hall of Famer and because Ryan Hollins was an NBA scrub, that Shannon Sharpe is better informed and understands the NBA and basketball better than Ryan Hollins does the NFL and football. Anyone who thinks that has ridiculous logic and there is absolutely no correlation between the two. Does Cristiano Ronaldo, one of the GOATs of soccer and one of the GOATs among all athletes, know more about the NFL than Ryan Hollins and more about the NBA than Shannon Sharpe? Melvin Gordon divides opinion among the punditry as to whether he is elite and a top 5 back in the NFL right now, but a good argument can certainly be made that he is definitely in the top 10. He may not be a spectacular runner and have a great YPA rating, but he is quite consistent in getting short yards and he also scores a lot of touchdowns and is a good receiver from the backfield. I believe that he is top 10, definitely, but not top 5. Damien Woody, Marcellus Wiley, Rich Eisen rate him very highly. Are they not two of them former good NFL players? Is Rich Eisen not a great pundit? Ryan Hollins seems to agree with them. Will Cain and Whitlock believe that he is good but not great. So do I.

  • Loose P Rivers? He’s been retired for 5 years He just doesn’t know it This games going downhill

  • Μax violating melvin

  • Omg so.many players retiring after this nfl season can y'all name them 🤔😝

  • Gurly is done great career cut short bad knee

  • Ryan Hoillins for Stephen A. Is like Tom Brady getting injured and his back up is Johnny Manziel

  • RYAN HOLLINS IS SUCH A CLOWN

  • The Chargers need to pay him or trade him. A running back doesn't have many years in the NFL so $5.6 million for a starting back of Melvin Gordon's calibre is a joke. Pay him or trade him right now.

    • He wants leveon bell and todd Gurley money. Tough decision